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In this episode, I’ll show you how the Church arrived at the idea that sex before marriage is sinful and how sex became taboo in society. Long story short: Gnosticism (Christianity’s origin) is to blame. 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Christian Church, the Catholics, anybody that's Christian have an issue with sex outside of marriage?\n\nWhy is that sinful?\n\nWell, let's start with some history.\n\nFirst of all, we need to understand that some think Christianity was always what it was in the past, but it wasn't like most religions.\n\nIt evolved.\n\nSo Christianity came out of Gnosticism.\n\nAll right?\n\nGnostics, or Gnosticism comes with the word Gnostic, which means knowledge.\n\nSo it was a group of people who were into knowledge, and these people got their information from the Greeks, who got their information from the Egyptians or the ancient comedic people.\n\nSo the ancient comedic people talked the Greeks.\n\nThe Greeks were a part of the Egyptian empire for a while, for several centuries.\n\nAnd then they begin to teach.\n\nAnd then there were groups like the Gnostics that were formed, and from there, out of Gnosticism came Christianity.\n\nAnd then Christianity, like all religions, tend to diss all the other religions, even though they came from them.\n\nSo around the fourth century, christianity split from the Gnostics with the Catholic Church as the promoter of the belief system that they had.\n\nAnd at that point, they invented Jesus, because Jesus at that point was not a real person.\n\nHe was a concept, a spiritual concept that we can all become like Christ, that we have Christ in us and all that kind of stuff.\n\nThese were the beliefs prior to that.\n\nBut then it became a real thing.\n\nAnd then the Bible came about, and a lot of the ideas were now history.\n\nAll these characters and all the stuff that happened in the Bible, these were now real people, these are real events now.\n\nBut they actually originally were allegories and concepts.\n\nSo over time, the Gnostics lost their original understanding of the Spirit's connection to the physical, and so they got caught up all into the spiritual.\n\nAll right, the Spirit is great.\n\nThe spirit is awesome.\n\nWe all need to ascend to the spiritual realm.\n\nBut the physical is dark, it's evil.\n\nThis physical body is prone to illnesses and sicknesses, and it's a curse on the soul, basically.\n\nAnd they had to believe the Gnostics.\n\nThey had this belief that we were trapped in the physical body and that somehow we needed to get free, and that it was just a curse to us to be in this physical body, and that the world that we lived in was a world of suffering and misery.\n\nAnd why would anybody want to come here?\n\nWhy would anyone want to be here?\n\nAnd they mentioned a character called the Demi Urge that put us here as prisoners and that somehow we need to figure out how to assign so that we can get out of this place and not come back.\n\nAnd so this is some of their beliefs, these gnostics.\n\nAnd so when the topic of sex came around, they said, well, why would we want to procreate?\n\nBecause procreation would bring more people here.\n\nWe don't want to bring people here.\n\nThis place is evil.\n\nIt's a jail cell.\n\nWhy would we procreate and bring somebody here?\n\nSo they started talking about not having sex.\n\nNobody should have sex now, prior to that, because they looked at the body.\n\nThe physical existence was a curse to the soul, as they would say.\n\nIt would corrupt the soul.\n\nThis is where original sin came from, the fall of man, total depravity.\n\nThese different doctrines that you hear from the Calvinists and even from Baptists and other denominations, you'll hear these doctrines.\n\nThis is where it came from narcissism.\n\nOnce again, Christianity came from Narcissism.\n\nOkay.\n\nAnd so this idea of being sinful from birth, as I talked about in previous messages, all this negativity about you being just a sinful person from day one, your flesh is evil.\n\nThey're talking about your physical body being evil, and that is prone to sin.\n\nAnd that's where this hatred for sex came from.\n\nAnd there was a SEC within the Gnostics that believed this.\n\nAnd they were called the inquiry ism it was called inquiryism.\n\nSo when the church emerged out of the Gnostics, they took these beliefs with them, all right?\n\nSo there was a church, early church father by the name of Erinias, and he believed that sex of any kind was evil.\n\nSo outside of inside marriage, it didn't matter.\n\nAny kind of relationship with sex is evil, masturbation, anything.\n\nSo this is where they started in the Catholic Church to forbid priests and nuns, people who were serving in the church, they are now forbidden to have sex or even get married.\n\nSo that's why they had to take that vowel of celibacy because somebody said long ago that sex was evil because that causes people to be brought into this world.\n\nLater on, another church father by the name of Clement, he was a little bit more modern because always people started complaining about stuff like this.\n\nAnd he said, oh, it's okay.\n\nYou can have sex just within marriage.\n\nAnd he had a belief that he got from another Gnostic leader called Valentina's.\n\nNow, Valentina's is where we get the word Valentine from.\n\nAnd Valentine's taught that creation creation was made through the gods having sex.\n\nAnd so marriage is a good thing because it's a reflection or a mirror of what the gods did to create us, okay?\n\nThis is his belief.\n\nAnd so marriage from that point on became sacred.\n\nAnd that got integrated into the church.\n\nSo you can't have sex outside of marriage, but only within the marriage, and now marriage is sacred.\n\nNow, prior to this, marriage wasn't a big deal.\n\nYou didn't have to get your marriage licensed or sanctioned by the state or ushered in by a priest.\n\nBut that's how we do it today.\n\nYou got to go sign some paperwork.\n\nYou don't have to do any of this stuff, by the way.\n\nBut most people, they think they have to.\n\nThey go down to the state, they register their relationship with some strangers, and then when they get married, there's a priest or a pastor having them recite vows, this big old sacred event.\n\nIt just didn't used to be that way.\n\nSo Church made marriage sacred because they made it out to be something that was a mirror to the gods creating us.\n\nSo that's where it came from.\n\nBut they still had these hang ups about sex.\n\nAnd let me just say this.\n\nThis is where you get that whole thing where marriage is a mirror to Christ marrying the church.\n\nAnd so when a man loves a woman, it's like Christ loving the church.\n\nSo the church is considered a woman in the Bible, and the man is considered Christ.\n\nAnd so these are where some of these concepts come from, all right?\n\nNow, at this point, sex outside of marriage is still considered fornication evil, and they would shame everybody for getting into it.\n\nAnybody who was involved in that would be considered a bad person.\n\nThey would be considered people that's on their way to h*** if they didn't stop.\n\nSo a lot of people started to develop shame and guilt around just having a sexual desire for somebody else and wanting to express that prior to the Church in these gnostics, nobody was tripping about sex.\n\nAnd mind you, these came from Europeans, by the way, okay?\n\nThe Europeans were the main ones that had an issue with sex.\n\nThese gnostics, and these are the ones that they put these weird beliefs out.\n\nAnd now you got millions of people for centuries suffering at the hands of sexual repression and all this other stuff, all because these guys believe that somehow the physical world was filthy and this physical body was filthy and and that we all should be spiritual and just ascend and not live here on this plane of existence.\n\nOkay?\n\nSo that's how sex became evil and dirty.\n\nIt gets worse because the Catholic Church began to work on that concept, and I'm going to show you some more information.\n\nBut this is where marriage became sacred.\n\nIt's a big deal.\n\nThat's why there's a woman wearing a white dress that represents virginity impurity.\n\nAll of that stuff is nonstick related.\n\nThat's where it comes from.\n\nSo back to Valentine's, because he said something about sex and gods, people still had an issue with him.\n\nThey didn't like the idea of God having sex with other gods.\n\nThey also didn't there were multiple gods.\n\nSo Christian religion teaches that there's one God, but they're united.\n\nThis God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.\n\nAnd the idea of them having sex, they still got this issue with sex so that, no, he does not have sex.\n\nThis is not sexual.\n\nHe didn't have sex to create the earth.\n\nHe did not do that.\n\nThat's nasty, that's foul.\n\nSo anybody who would suggest today that the world came about because of God's, having sex is considered a satanic person, a person that's sinful, sacrilegious.\n\nThey're evil.\n\nThey're wicked for saying that.\n\nNow, I want to be clear that the Egyptians never believe any of this gnostic foolishness, and they never had an issue with sex.\n\nThey never told people sex was evil.\n\nHe shouldn't bring anybody into this world.\n\nSo this never came from the Egyptians.\n\nThese were concepts that were passed down from the Egyptians to the Greeks to the Gnostics, where the gnostics kind of screwed them up.\n\nThe Gnostics lost their connection to the original text, I would say, and just started to think on their own and make up concepts based off of their pessimistic view of reality.\n\nTheir reality was they were seeing suffering around, and they were seeing all this s*** going on, and they're saying, this world is f***** up.\n\nWho would want to be here?\n\nAnd they got a concept and the idea that somehow we were trapped.\n\nSo this is how these things come about.\n\nNow it gets worse.\n\nAnd before I go forward, I'm going to just share some books that talk more about this.\n\nOne book is called Gnostic and Historic Christianity by Gerald Massey.\n\nGerald Massey.\n\nAnother book is called Gnostic Mysteries of Sex by Tobias Churchton.\n\nAnd then there's another book that I'm going to quote from today and grab some excerpts from.\n\nAnd this is a book that I mentioned when I was a Bible teacher, when I criticized the Catholic Church on their views of sex.\n\nAnd I went into the history of the Catholic Church and their views of sex, and I found a lot of file ideas about sex that just got really out of hand.\n\nAnd let me show you here.\n\nAll right, so there's another book.\n\nThis is the book called Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven the Catholic Church and Sexuality.\n\nThis is by a lady named Utah Ranki Heinman, and she is a PhD in Catholic theology.\n\nAnd she basically expose a lot of the negative views of sex in the early church fathers belief systems and also their view of women.\n\nSo here's some excerpts from the book, and just to show you just how f***** up things got after this idea of not having sex got into place.\n\nSo the early church fathers came to increasingly believe that celibacy and virginity were the ultimate stance one should adopt in the eyes of God.\n\nPeople such as Justin Marter Clement of Alexandria, which is who I just mentioned earlier.\n\nOregon Jerome Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.\n\nThus, Christianity developed a hostility towards sex and a hatred of the pleasure derived from it.\n\nAll right?\n\nThe likes of Augusta Hippo connected the transmission of original sin with sexual intercourse or more precisely, sexual pleasure.\n\nSo if you're having problems with sexual pleasure, like I mentioned in my last broadcast, this is where it comes from, okay?\n\nBut even these idiots realized that someone had to have sex or else humans would quickly die out.\n\nSex was seen as a necessary evil.\n\nSo marriage was allowed, although not encouraged since it was still better to live life as a virgin than worry about the human race.\n\nSo if you read the Bible and think first corinth I forget the chapter right now, but there's Paul talking about I would hope that you all could be like me, meaning living a celibate life, not having sex and not being married.\n\nBut you can if you don't have that gift of celibacy and you should get married, don't burn in lust, et cetera, et cetera.\n\nSo here it is again.\n\nIt's all about the spiritual just having sex and procreating down here and living down here.\n\nIt ain't about this.\n\nIt's about ascending to a higher level.\n\nAnd this is coming from Narcissism, by the way.\n\nIt goes on to say here in fact, they even calculated how much one would benefit on reaching heaven.\n\nVirgins would receive 100% heavenly reward.\n\nWidows and widow words, because they stopped having sex, would get 60% and married people only 30% heavenly reward.\n\nSo this is, you know, this is the bullshit that they they out there teaching.\n\nSo marriage and sex was regroughingly permitted, but it was not under any circumstances to be enjoyed.\n\nAnd then here's one of the church fathers, they said his name is Thomas Quinnis.\n\nHe says, marriage is aimed at procreation and therefore the man who loves his wife too passionately contravenes the good of marriage and can be labeled an adulterer.\n\nThat's ridiculous.\n\nHere's another statement from Jerome.\n\nIt states, the beginning of children is allowed in marriage, but the feelings of sensual pleasure such as those had in the embraces of a Harley are damnable in a wife.\n\nSo if you start feeling too nice about your wife, your wife's p**** is too good and you're just loving on this woman and just she is so good to you.\n\nOh my God.\n\nYou're in sin.\n\nYou're in sin.\n\nMan, this is crazy.\n\nMan, this is crazy.\n\nThese men were f***** up in the head.\n\nLet me keep going.\n\nThe likes of Augustine, Thomas Aquinas and Albert the Great considered sexual pleasure as evil, a punishment, filthy, defying, ugly, shameful, sick, a degradation of the mind, a humiliation of reason by the flesh, common, debasing, humiliating, shared with the beast, brutal, corrupted, depraved, infected and infecting.\n\nAnd then even worse, they pushed all these descriptions on the women because women were the ones that draw you to them.\n\nThey're the ones entice you to have sex.\n\nYou see their body, you see their face.\n\nNow the woman is just dirty object.\n\nAnd so this is where you get the whole hormadonna complex thing where the Catholic Church taught this as well.\n\nThey teach that there's two types of women.\n\nThere's a woman that's a Madonna who keeps herself from sexual urges.\n\nShe don't practice a lot of sex and she's only relationship based sex.\n\nAnd she's not out here f****** around and just doing her thing.\n\nAnd then you have the w**** who's just f****** everything that moves.\n\nShe's a promiscuous woman and all that type of stuff, okay?\n\nThese concepts don't exist, all right?\n\nMost women are both.\n\nWomen love sex just as much as men do and it's easier for them to get it.\n\nAnd if they're free from any hangups or repression, they don't get it.\n\nAnd unfortunately in this society, because women are shamed for expressing their sexual appetites, they have to hide them.\n\nAnd so a lot of women pretend to be good girls.\n\nThey dress a certain way in front of certain men and they dress another way in front of men.\n\nThey know that they can have sex with without judgment.\n\nThere is no such thing as a w**** and a Madonna, okay?\n\nThere's women that just want to have sex and that's it.\n\nLet me keep going here.\n\nWhile the church leaders hate sex and everything surrounded it and still do, they weren't content to just live a celibate and virginal life themselves.\n\nThey had to force their beliefs on to the rest of the world.\n\nAnd that's where we get all this s*** right now.\n\nEverybody was told from the peasant to the king that sexual intercourse is reprehensible and evil and that there can be no sexual pleasure without sin.\n\nCome on man, let me go on.\n\nIt says enjoying sex is forbidden.\n\nSo is sex outside of marriage.\n\nSex with pregnant or ministering women is forbidden.\n\nAnd I've heard this from one of these deacons.\n\nI remember going to this men's meeting and he said he couldn't have sex with his wife because she was pregnant.\n\nAnd I remember telling somebody that and they said, that's going to make those d*** things.\n\nAll you do is lay her on the side.\n\nYes, she's pregnant, but you can still have sex with her.\n\nWhere did you get this idea from the old Catholic church.\n\nThat's where you got it from.\n\nIt's no basis.\n\nThe woman didn't lose her sex drive because she's pregnant or that she's menstruating.\n\nAnd see, in the Bible it talks about if a woman is on her period, that she's unclean because she's pushing out some eggs that weren't used through blood.\n\nShe's an unclean person.\n\nThis is all coming from these guys who don't like sex and don't like women, okay, because of their old gnostic belief systems.\n\nYou're fine if you have sex with your wife when she's pregnant.\n\nYou just layer on the side and you slide in from the back and you spoon f*** her.\n\nThat's it.\n\nA menstrual f*** is even better in some cases.\n\nI know you all that's nasty as h***.\n\nIt's going to be blood everywhere.\n\nYou put a towel down, man, you put a tile down.\n\nFrankly, she can be very aroused at that time, too, as well.\n\nAnd you just slide in there.\n\nYou slide in if you want to put a condom on because you don't want to get your d*** wet from all the blood and everything, that's fine.\n\nSome women don't even bleed that much.\n\nIt's not a lot going to come out.\n\nAll right.\n\nYou can do whatever you want.\n\nAs long as it's consensual.\n\nI'm going to continue.\n\nIt says older people are forbidden from having sex, as are people that are sterile.\n\nThey just all up in your body.\n\nThey're telling you what to do with your natural body.\n\nThese people are f****** crazy.\n\nAnd he says any sex where contraception isn't possible, such as oral sex, is deemed unnatural and forbidden.\n\nSo that's where oral sex is a sin comes from.\n\nAnd of course, a*** sex, it's not mentioned here, but that's unnatural.\n\nThen they go on to say something crazy for the same reason contraception is strictly forbidden.\n\nSo if you do have sex and you don't want children, you're wrong for putting on a condom.\n\nNot that you're trying to look, I'm trying to stay away from any STI's.\n\nI don't want to have children.\n\nNo, you're wrong for that.\n\nYou can't be wearing condoms.\n\nAnd this is a problem in the Philippines and many other countries where they're heavily Catholic and they have a high population of poverty, and it's mostly women with a bunch of children because they're scared to put a condom on because it's the fear of sinning against God.\n\nAnd so you got a bunch of single mothers with five kids where if they would just put a condom on, they wouldn't be in that condition.\n\nThose children can't be fed.\n\nThere's not enough money, man.\n\nThe mess that comes from the church, that's an issue in the Philippines, by the way.\n\nI follow the Philippines.\n\nYeah.\n\nThe women over there are just f******, f******, f******, f******, f******.\n\nAnd they can't wear a condom because that's somehow sinful.\n\nBirth control is sinful.\n\nA condom is sinful.\n\nSo it's coming from that church.\n\nAll right?\n\nSo it goes on to say, any attempt to thwart the beginning of life is a sin against God.\n\nWe don't want you having sex, so be celibate.\n\nBut if you do have sex, you better have a child.\n\nDon't you be having sex just for fun.\n\nIt goes on to say, any ancient form of contraception called Accordis interrupted, which is the withdrawal method, basically, you pull out and bust on a bus on an a** or bus on the stomach is considered sinful.\n\nAnother scenic, they said is when you have sex on the rhythm method and I did this with my ex wife where you can time how you have sex to where if you ejaculate it won't get her pregnant because her eggs are not there or they're not developed yet or whatever.\n\nAnd they said that's simple.\n\nAny way of preventing pregnancy is a sin.\n\nSo if you're going to have sex you got to have a child.\n\nAnd if you're not having a child you shouldn't be having sex.\n\nThis is what the Catholic Church was teaching.\n\nSo it says even making yourself sterile is a sin.\n\nIt goes on to say masturbation is a sin.\n\nIt says masturbation is a worse sin than having sex with one's own mother.\n\nThis is what they taught, this is what they believe back then.\n\nIt goes on to say in the 19th century to protect women from this sin of masturbation a solution the Church supported was called Clitoric decomy, which is the chopping off of the female c*******.\n\nBasically they're going to pull that hood back and take your little pearl and chop it off so that you can't play with it.\n\nAnd a lot of women, if they were caught masturbating, had their c******* cut off and in some cases it was mandatory to just chop off every girl's c*******.\n\nNow they don't do that anymore because that's female genital mutilation but they still do it to males today in the form of circumcision.\n\nSo they cut off the foreskins of the p****.\n\nThat destroys the pleasure basically because your p**** is exposed, the glands are exposed to your clothing, is rubbing against your clothing and everything like that.\n\nSo over time it becomes hardened to protect itself and you lose your sensibility to sexes so you can't feel things.\n\nNow, they also talked about missionary as the only position that you can have.\n\nSo it just goes on and on here.\n\nMany of the early church fathers that argued for celibacy and came to hate women were no strangers to sex.\n\nSo here they are telling you you can't have sex but they messing around.\n\nSo one guy in particular, Augustine for example, lived with a woman for twelve years before kicking her out.\n\nBut keeping their son unable to wait for his new wife in a planned marriage, he took another lover.\n\nHe also evidently dabbled in homosexuality in his teenage years.\n\nSo the hypocrisy man just they're telling you do one thing and they're doing something else.\n\nSo now for normal people, thoughts of sexual acts are erotic and pleasurable.\n\nBut even thinking about them now it becomes sinful if you're a Christian.\n\nSo just the thought of sex flirting you can't even visualize a woman, it's a mess.\n\nBut I just wanted to show you where the origin of this idea about sex and passion and pleasure and how it became forbidden came from and of course homosexuality.\n\nBecause s***, if sex with the opposite sex is sent for of course, two men is and two women is just absolutely abominable.\n\nSo the Bible says that, of course, if you change your gender and transgenderism, that's f***** up.\n\nSo that's in itself it's foul.\n\nThere you have it, people.\n\nAll right?\n\nThat's the origin.\n\nIt came from some gnostics who could not understand and accept that the physical realm and the spiritual realm were connected and that they were both good places to be.\n\nThis is not some jail cell that somehow some false God put us in.\n\nAnd now we got to abstain from sex, from bringing people here.\n\nThat's just absolute bullshit.\n\nThe drive for sex is so strong.\n\nIt's in all of us.\n\nIt's just we all want to have sex, and that's because that's part of being in this world, is to explore sex and to enjoy sex.\n\nSex heals your body through o*****, not only spiritually, but physically.\n\nSex is creative energy.\n\nIt's so much to sex, and I'm going to talk about that in later broadcasts.\n\nBut for anybody who's had these ideas masturbation, sinful, sexual thoughts and sinful we've talked about this before this is coming from some bullshit.\n\nAll right?\n\nYou got to do your research and look at the history of where these ideas come from.\n\nYou'll discover this is not logical.\n\nGod is not responsible for this.\n\nThese are warped men who have a disconnection with the spiritual, their souls, you know, the way the world works.\n\nAnd they've put so many burdens on millions of people over centuries with this craziness.\n\nAnd I'm so sad to be even a victim of that.\n\nAnd now I'm a recovering person from that.\n\nI'm a healing from that man.\n\nThat's all I got for you today.\n\nTill next time.\n\nLike share subscribe leave me an email.\n\nNeil@neoreal.com, I appreciate you listening to the end.\n\nShare it with others and just be have a blessed day and just know that nothing good is in religion.\n\nAnything you think is good in religion must ball for 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