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Why are their gay churches, women-led ministries, and people teaching that hell doesn’t exist even though their Bible clearly says the contrary? In this episode, I get into the psychology of Christian heresy. For more on the subject of Calvinism discussed in this episode, visit this link.
Chapters:
- 0:00 Gist
- 0:20 Intro music
- 1:00 Introduction
- 1:22 What is a heretic
- 2:02 Heresy 1: Calvinism
- 6:03 Heresy 2: Women pastors
- 8:04 Heresy 3: Homosexual churches
- 10:45 Heresy 4: Eternal torment doesn’t exist
- 14:23 The psychology of heretical Christians
- 15:50 Repression
- 16:47 What Christian heretics should do
- 18:10 Heresy is based in fear of damnation
- 18:55 Summary + hard questions
- 23:43 Outro and music
Transcript
I’m just trying to expose the fact that if you’re following all these heredic Bible teachers, it says something about how you actually view God and you’re repressing that you have a problem with your God, you have a problem with this Bible, you don’t like God and that’s okay.
What’s up good people?
This is your host Neil Real, and this is the Apostate Apple broadcast.
Today we’ll be talking about heresy in the Christian church and what it reveals about the mindset of many people who practice heresy and follow groups who are heretical.
Let’s get right into it.
What’s a heretic?
A heretic is one who differs in opinion from an accepted belief or doctrine, and in this case, concepts gathered from the Bible.
So the weird thing about Christianity is there’s so many denominations, and these denominations teach things that are contrary to the word of God or the Bible, the Holy Scriptures, and they could have a teaching that just doesn’t fit.
There’s clear scriptures there that says this is what we’re supposed to do or not do.
And they sit up there and say no.
So we’re going to get to the bottom of that and expose what’s really going on.
I’m just going to expose about four different heresies I’ve seen.
The first one is Calvinism, also called Eternal Security, or once saved, always save.
And this is just a doctrine that states that once you accept Jesus’s, Lord and Savior, you become a Christian, you become born again, that you cannot lose your salvation.
Meaning you can do anything.
After that point you can commit sin.
There is no threat of you losing your salvation.
Okay, but the Scriptures say otherwise.
Here’s what the Bible says.
It says, but he who endures to the end shall be saved.
This is in Matthew chapter ten, verses 22.
Matthew, chapter 24, verses 13.
So endurance is the only way that you can be saved.
It never said anything about once you make a declaration of faith in Christ Jesus that somehow you’re automatically there you have to endure this work and effort that has to be involved in this.
Here’s another one.
Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine.
Continue in them the key word continue.
For in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
This is coming from one Timothy chapter four, verses 16.
Once again, keyword continue, meaning that you got to do some work.
It’s not an automatic thing.
Once you make a declaration of faith, as the Calvinists will say, that you’re automatically in and nothing can take away your salvation.
Here’s some other passages moreover, brethren, I declare to you the Gospel which I preach to you, which also you received and in which you stand by, which also you are saved.
If key word you hold fast the word which I preach to you, holding fast, meaning to keep following it unless you believe in vain.
This is coming from one Corinthians chapter 15, verses one and two.
So once again, there’s work involved here in your salvation.
You just can’t declare Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and somehow be converted, and then that’s it.
But this is what Calvinists teach.
And Calvinism was something that I was taught in my first church, the Baptist church.
So I believe that and I’ve defended that belief system, but it’s not true according to these scriptures I’m reading here.
Here’s a few more and we’ll wrap this up.
Don’t let sin rain in your body, for sin leads to death.
Romans, chapter six, verses twelve through 18.
I’m just paraphrasing these now, but it says, don’t let sin reign in your body or you’ll die, meaning eternal death.
You won’t be allowed into heaven, you’ll be in in h***.
Here’s another one.
Beware any of you who have a heart of unbelief departing from God, this is in Hebrews, chapter three, verses twelve.
So let’s say you became a Christian, but then somehow you started to doubt, and then you departed from God like I did.
I’m an apostate.
And beware.
Why did he say beware?
Because h***, that there’s going to be judgment for.
That another passage one, Timothy 512.
They have damnation because they cast off their first faith.
So I’m one of those people, I cast off my first faith, which was in Christ Jesus, and now when I dial, have eternal damnation.
It’s basically what this is saying.
So finally, here’s a few more.
We aren’t those who draw back to tradition, but those who believe to the saving of the soul.
This is in Hebrews, chapter ten, verses 39.
So this is a loss of salvation and these are Christians.
This is a warning in scripture.
And yet you have the Calvinist teaching something else.
So that’s heresy.
All right, here’s another one, another heretical belief system, women led churches.
Now, by the way, I don’t care about any of this stuff.
I’m just showing you how the Bible says one thing, but people have a whole doctrine set up to support something else.
So there are women led churches, women pastors, women apostles, women deacons, et cetera, et cetera.
But the Bible don’t teach that.
The Bible prohibits women from leading and teaching men.
One Timothy, chapter two, verses twelve says, I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man.
She must be quiet.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not the one deceived, it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
So there’s your Bible telling the women that, hey, you can’t be a pastor, a leader of the flock, you can’t teach people in the church.
Yet there are whole ministries led by women because women want to teach, they got something to say, they want to express themselves too.
But here, your Bible says something else.
So I don’t know how they’re justifying what they’re doing, because their Bible says not to do this, that they can’t do that.
And so I’ve heard some excuses.
They say, well, this passage was for the women back then in that church.
It does not apply to women today.
And that’s not what the scripture says.
It doesn’t give you a timeline.
It doesn’t say, well, for this particular time frame or this particular church, it doesn’t do that.
If you read the Bible as a whole, there’s a lot of misogyny in there too.
So it’s quite evident this is applicable to women.
Now, any woman in the church, this is the rule.
You’re not permitted to teach or assume authority over a man or the men in the church.
Another one, homosexual churches.
Not sure how they’re trying to justify this.
I was looking at some of some responses I found on Cora.
They got gay churches where it’s just, hey, all the LGBTQ people can come and worship and their lifestyle is accepted.
Somehow they justify it.
I’m not sure how.
They are Christians, and yet they are practicing homosexuality as if these scriptures I’m about to read don’t exist.
So here’s the first one, leviticus, chapter 20, verses 13.
It says, if a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They are to be put to death.
Their blood will be on their own heads.
Now, this is the Old Testament passage, and the New Testament kind of gives grace, and it doesn’t tell people to kill people anymore.
But here’s the New Testament.
One Corinthians six nine.
If you read this before, do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolatros, nor adulterers, nor men who have sex with men.
I’ve seen some churches try to justify this and say, well, as long as the men are married or the lesbians are married, then God is okay with it.
That’s not what the Bible says.
It’s not what the Bible says.
All right, you’re altering scripture.
You’re ignoring Scripture to live your lifestyle.
Revelations, chapter 21, verses eight says, but the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolatchers and all liars, they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulphur.
This is the second death.
Now, that word, sexually immoral, also includes homosexuality.
So here you have it.
You got the Bible saying you got to kill homosexuals.
It says they will not inherit the kingdom of God.
It also says that they will be burnt in the lake of fire for eternity.
So how are you justifying that?
And once again, my stance on homosexuality and most sexual stuff in the Bible, I’m cool with it.
I’ve let go of religion, religious beliefs on these things, and I’m not here to judge anybody.
Finally, here’s another one that I’ve seen has come up.
When I was a christian, this was controversial.
There are people teaching that there is no h*** or that h*** is not eternal.
That is temporal.
You go in, you burn up and you’re gone.
There’s no torment forever and ever.
But that’s not what the Bible says.
It’s not what the Bible says.
Matthew five, verses 22 says, and this is Jesus Christ speaking.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother or sister will be subject to judgment.
Again, anyone who says to his brother or sister Raqqa is answerable to the court.
And anyone who says, you fool will be in danger of the fire of h***.
But everybody is saying that there’s no h***, that’s Jesus is saying there’s a h*** and that you can go I remember a prominent pastor just saying there’s no h***.
He just kind of gave up and said he was seeing suffering on television and just saying, so all these people that don’t have the Gospel, they’re going to go to h***.
And he just said, no, that’s not it, that’s not it.
The h*** doesn’t exist.
It doesn’t exist.
I can’t accept that.
Well, your Bible says it.
Matthew, chapter ten, verses 28 says, do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and the body in h***.
So here’s another reference to h***.
And this is Jesus speaking again.
Finally, Jesus is going to say this again and this is where he says that h*** is eternal.
Mark, chapter nine, verses 45 to 48.
And by the way, all of these verses up until this point were coming from the NIV and then the CEV.
So if you use a different translation, you may see something different.
But this is where I’m coming from.
This particular scripture is from the KJV or the King James version.
This is Mark, chapter nine, verses 45 to 48.
And it says, and if thy foot offend thee, cut it off, it is better for thee to enter halt into life or halfway into life, than having 2ft to be cast into h***, into the fire that never shall be quenched.
Okay, so it’s a fire that never shall be quenched.
That means that’s eternal, that’s torment forever.
Verse 46, it says, where the worm die if not, and the fire is not quenched.
So they keep saying this is the second time he said that.
And if thy eye offend thee, pluck it out.
It is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes to be cast into h*** fire with the worm die of knot and the fire is not quenched.
So he’s describing h*** in other passages.
He talks about weeping and gnashing of teeth, but in this case he’s talking about there’s also going to be a worm that doesn’t die.
So it’s kind of like your body is rotting and you can feel all this.
These worms are eating you up and you’re on fire.
The fire never goes out and the worm never dies.
That’s torment.
That’s f****** crazy.
And Jesus is saying, this is the state of people who go to h*** or into the lake of fire.
So how are people justifying this?
Why are they doing this?
Why are they creating whole new doctrines and saying, hey, the h*** doesn’t exist or it’s not eternal.
So why are these people doing this?
Why are they creating whole new doctrines and things like this?
Well, here’s what heresy reveals about the Christian psyche.
It reveals the Christians repressed view of their God, all right?
And this is their view of their God that he is unreasonable, he’s strict, abusive, he excludes women.
He won’t let them express themselves, he won’t let them teach.
He hates gays.
No one can measure up to His Holiness or His Holiness standard, and they have no security of ever going to heaven, you see?
So they come up with these doctrines like eternal security.
So now they feel better about this God that tells them directly in scripture that they could go to h*** even if they’re Christians.
The women create a doctrine or try to justify being able to get up and teach and preach and express themselves because they feel excluded.
The gays say, I want to be accepted by God, but my lifestyle don’t want to change it.
I can’t change it, and they get rid of it.
So what’s happening here?
It’s repression.
Repression is the unconscious blocking of unpleasant emotions, impulses, memories and thoughts from your conscious mind.
The purpose of this defense mechanism is to try to minimize feelings of guilt and anxiety.
So it’s without question that Christians struggle with guilt and anxiety.
So what do they do?
They alter the Bible to support their lifestyle.
So they cherry pick scriptures that seem to support what they want to do, and then they ignore the other ones.
They’ll twist the scripture that may come in direct conflict with their lifestyle.
And they pretty much going through the Bible with a black magic marker and just blotting out stuff.
They tearing out pages.
And it’s because they have this repression going on with their God.
They have a repression for you with their God.
That’s what it is.
So here’s what they should be doing.
I mean, they should either accept the Bible as it is and obey it, or dump the religion altogether.
But here’s what they do instead.
They commit another sin, which is the altering of texts or ignoring texts and saying things that God didn’t say.
And there’s consequences for that.
So in the book of James, chapter three, verse one, it says teachers will be judged stricter than everybody else.
What they’re saying is, you’ll be judged from lying against God.
So if you say God said something he didn’t say, and you teach people, hey, homosexuality is cool with god now or there’s no h*** or one save, always save.
You not going to lose your salvation.
They basically lying on the Scriptures.
They lying on the word of God.
And so there’s a judgment coming for that.
There’s another passage in Revelations, chapter 22, verses 19.
It says if you remove a verse, you can lose your place in heaven.
So it says stuff about don’t add to the Bible or don’t take away from the Bible things of that nature.
So if this is the infallible word of God, this Bible, these holy Scriptures, these people are in trouble.
These heretics are in trouble for altering the Bible or at least preaching something that’s not in there or creating something that’s not in there.
Once again, logically they should simply reject the religion.
But the belief of going to h*** is so ingrained in them that they can’t do it.
They can’t leave God.
So they instead repress their anxiety and their guilt and then they create a doctrine.
So it just shows the power of h***, the belief of h***, that if I leave God or leave this Bible, that I’m going to h***.
And frankly, the Christian is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t.
So you’re damned if you stand religion and practice in.
If you’re damned if you leave the Bible and you leave God.
It’s like it’s kind of a Catch 22.
You d*** both ways.
So that’s all I want to reveal, is that you have a problem with your God, you have a problem with this Bible, and you need to own up to it instead of changing it, altering it.
You have to say, well, if this is what the book is saying, and you saying this is the infallible word of God, why are you following this person?
Dump Jesus, dump the Holy Spirit, dump God the Father.
This guy ain’t cool.
This is not a good person.
This is an abusive person.
He don’t respect women.
He won’t let them express themselves.
He hates homosexuality.
He used to teach that you could kill a homosexual.
This is f***** up.
And instead of these people dealing with their God directly and saying, man, f*** this dude.
We’re dumping this religion altogether, they just alter the Bible.
They’ll get a new I think there’s a gay Bible now where they just took out all the parts about homosexuality and changed it to something else.
And it’s like, why are you f****** with a religion that don’t like you?
Why are you f****** with a God that don’t like you?
Let go of this god.
Let go of this religion.
This is some bullshit.
See, I’ve read the Bible, I know what it says.
It’s some f***** up s*** in there.
And I was willing to be a man enough and say, let me just accept it for what it is.
If this is the infallible word of God, I got to keep following it.
And I was hated because of that.
Why is he so bad?
A book I’m like because it says, if you don’t follow it, you’re going to h***.
It says this is his word.
Let’s accept it for what it is.
But the people say, no, I can’t do that.
This is too hard.
It’s too hard for me.
I don’t have any insurance of going to heaven.
I got to work my way into heaven, essentially.
I got to keep up being a righteous Christian.
I don’t want to do that.
But you’re still scared of going to h***.
You’re scared of displeasing God or Him not blessing you.
So you go and do this.
You go find a ministry that caters to your lifestyle.
Like, come on.
I’m just trying to expose the fact that if you’re doing all of this, all this hypocrisy, if you’re following all these heredic Bible teachers, it says something about how you actually view God and you’re repressing that.
And you really need to get deep inside yourself and have some emotional intelligence and think about what you think about.
You don’t like God, and that’s okay because he don’t exist anyway, at least not in the context of the Bible.
And his book is man made.
It’s strict, it’s abusive, it hates gays women, it’s foul, it’s f***** up, it’s disempowering to men.
It’s a mess to humankind people.
We have to get to the place where we accept that for what it is, instead of trying to hold on to a religion that’s f***** up and keep trying to alter it.
I know a lot of people, they struggle with their God, they struggle with this Bible, and yet what keeps them stuck in that relationship, this abusive relationship, is the fear of h***.
I’m just so glad to be free myself.
And I hope that others can get free as well.
Let’s say that Jesus actually exists or God the Father exists.
They’re abusive.
They don’t like men to be men.
As I talked about, and I’ll keep talking about in future podcasts how they just destroy masculinity.
You have no guarantee of having eternal life.
You could say, Well, I’m doing my best I can, and I’m walking in the spirit, and I really feel good about this.
And then you get to heaven and he says something about, maybe you did something way back when, you never asked for forgiveness, and now you’re going to h*** and you thought you did a good job.
And that’s the type of s*** that people really think about when they read these scriptures.
That’s why they change them up and created a whole new doctrine.
There’s no assurance.
He’s so f****** strict.
Why you want to keep f****** with a God like that?
Why you want to keep f****** with a religion like that?
And this applies to Islam and Judaism.
Why you want to keep dealing with something like that?
F*** that.
Free yourself or come up with another religion of some spiritual practices or belief systems that cater to you as a person to help you be a better person.
But this right here, we’re not doing this.
That’s all I got for you today.
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